Crowd envy

BrasiliaMany are asking why we don’t “go Brazilian” and hit the streets. I try and provide an answer in my latest over at the Transitions blog. The value added:

Academics point to several factors as “triggers” of popular mobilizations. Latin American researchers Fabiana Machado, Carlos Scartascini, and Mariano Tommasi find that where institutions are strong, they serve as mechanisms for channeling people’s frustrations. On the contrary, where institutions lack credibility, people take to the streets to vent their anger. They find that people do so regardless of the strength of individual affiliation to political parties or their relative political extremism.

Obviously, Venezuela’s institutions are largely seen as lacking credibility, at least by a significant portion of the populace. Therefore, why aren’t people hitting the streets like they are in Brazil, Turkey, or Egypt? If Nicolás Maduro is seen as illegitimate, why is he still there?

Loyola University political scientist Christopher Martínez has looked at the reasons why presidential regimes fall. He says that “presidebilismo” — a term coined from the combination of the Spanish words for weak, “presidencialismo” and “débil,” — is particularly prevalent in Latin America, a region with a long tradition of presidents falling thanks to the pressure of popular movements.

Martínez claims that presidents that fall to popular pressure tend to have a low share of the vote in legislatures. They also happen to preside over slow-growing economies, and suffer from a particularly acute bout of political scandals.

None of these factors seem to be present in Venezuela. The current government has a strong majority in the National Assembly, and legislative roadblocks are virtually nonexistent. And while the economy is suffering from acute shortages, it seems to be growing — barely, but just enough to stave off most protests.

29 thoughts on “Crowd envy

    • Yes, that is why Maduro hasn’t fallen. Because there is a vast majority of venezuelans waiting at the door for the bat signal to go up so they know when to hit the streets. Nice alternate universo you got there.

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    • It helps to know “everyone” is going onto the street, and a call from Capriles would have guaranteed this. Organization is common in successful protests against failed communist regimes; as for example with Solidarnocz in Poland. I gather that Capriles simply thought that the regime would be weaker in a year or so. If Maduro des have a policy of reducing tensions with the US, that too will put a limit on the amount of violence he can unleash on peaceful protesters.

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      • If Capriles thought there were enough people willing to protest for days on end, he would have sparked protests. But we know that the crowds at Capriles rallies are much better off than the crowds at Maduro rallies. They have more money and live in safer areas. They have much better things to do with their time.

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        • I think Capriles probably made a judgment that by calling people out in the street at that time, he would be calling people to die at the hands of the regime’s thugs. That would be a hard call for a person to make.

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        • “If Capriles thought there were enough people willing to protest for days on end, he would have sparked protests. But we know that the crowds at Capriles rallies are much better off than the crowds at Maduro rallies. They have more money and live in safer areas. They have much better things to do with their time.”

          Thank you, machos del teclado. Thank you, contrarevolucionarios de poltrona. You’ve managed to drive yoyo into writing a coherent and at least partly correct comment. Kudos to all!

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      • “It helps to know “everyone” is going onto the street, and a call from Capriles would have guaranteed this”

        This is deeply wrong. The whole “you jump first” approach to asserting your rights is pathetic self-serving dishonesty.

        FLASHBACK:

        Caracas, April 1810
        Int. Panadería St. Honoré

        Caraqueño 1: These spaniards are getting out of control.
        Caraqueño 2: You said it! That Emparan guy is the worst. We should join a protest.
        Caraqueño 1: What? In Holy Week? You’re crazy.

        Suddenly Diego Arria walks in with a couple of Mantuanos.

        Arria: My friends! Why are you not in the streets? We are on out way to the cabildo. (But first I must have some coffee).
        Caraqueño 1: Ay, pa’ qué? Nobody here has any balls. How do you guarantee that enough people will go to result in anything?
        Mantuano 1: Well, we heard Madariaga will be at the scene.
        Caraqueño 1: Hmm, that changes thing. Maybe I’ll come along to the march for a little bit. Not that it will be of any use. Also, there’s no way I’ll take part in a referendum: that would make me a collaborationist with the crown. Capitán General no sale con votos. Unless that priest waggles his finger… I mean, that’s what we’re all waiting for, right? A little finger wiggling will send those royalists packing!

        Exeunt.

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        • I honestly think Charles V should have given the Welser a second chance. Or he might have given more clout to the Fuger. Venezuela would be Chile times 20 now but with decent beaches. Things started to go awry much earlier.

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          • The germans were too busy looking for gold and copper to make a decent go of it in eine kleine venezia. Maybe if they had known about oil…

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    • I think that this is a common cycle. The protests that led to the fall of the Shah in Iran occurred in similar social and economic circumstances. In thinking about the fall of Populist/Socialist regimes, these seem to end through economic collapse or a military coup (or both).

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  1. To complete your analysis, you should study the conditions that led to April 11, 2002. At the time, Venezuela was in very similar situation to Egypt today. Did the conditions you cite were on at that time/

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    • The situations do look similar, but in Venezuela Cramona pissed off everyone, whereas Egypt is consulting with different groups and has actually appointed the head of the supreme court as interim leader. Perhaps they learned from Venezuela’s mistakes?

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      • Chavez partially changed the armed forces enough to gain influence in his return, Morsi left the military alone and the rest is history.

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  2. Venezuela takes care of the poor, that is almost everything you need to say about why there are no crippling protests, a high class protests tends to be more walk and go home instead of the sit it out in the millions.

    You guys are cynical because you think the country is rich enough to provide first world services, but when people see a petrocasa they don’t think the government is out to kill them with chemicals, they contrast it with Caldera era cardboard barracks and an assortment of ricketing housing that is unlikely to be still standing.

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    • I don’t know why having higher expectations and making demands is cynical. If the country is rich enough to provide free gasoline, and support a crumbling caribbean dictatorship, it seems to me there untold alternate possibilities, that don’t entail reverting to the past. Why not demand them?

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    • they contrast it with Caldera era cardboard barracks and an assortment of ricketing housing that is unlikely to be still standing.
      Unfortunately for you the facts do not agree with your Shameless propaganda.

      Housing Units constructed per year per 100,000 population
      1979-1998 346
      1999-2012 200 [using pop average 1999-2012]
      1999-2012 201 [using pop average 1999-2011]

      And as for “Caldera era cardboard barracks and an assortment of ricketing housing,” Chavista housing construction has resulted in such disasters as the Worst. GMVV House. Ever!

      Under Chavismo, there has been appreciably less housing construction per capita, with demonstrable examples of shoddy construction.

      I can understand why you call yourself “Shame.” While you spout fact-free Chavista propaganda, you apparently feel some shame in doing so.

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      • All of Caldera era housing was shit, there is really no comparison, the shame is mine and yours for visiting this site instead of doing something productive, or debating in a better place..

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        • A of Caldera era housing was shit, there is really no comparison
          Really , now:Worst GMVV House.Ever! That ain’t no Caldera era house.

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  3. I got tired of going out…In 14 years Chavizmo created 2 generations of beggars…so really that is the people that is going to think about free speech? they make everyone equal , pero hacia abajo… They empowered people in a really bad way , with these universities and education to be bolivarian lawyers, bolivarian doctors, etc…so having a title, and depending on the 3 cents Chavez would give them if they adored him…We don’t have a country we have a CULT… Take into account The people that since the protest against the Education Law ( Con mis hijos no te metas) or the buying of the chupadolares, they are gone to other countries… The Brazilian style we had it…not anymore…And Venezuela is a petrostate, it is always an outlier in any poliscience paper . We are unique!!!

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  4. The regime has used organized mob violence and police violence methodically and ruthlessly for 12 years to supress opposition protests or even attack peaceful opposition marches , even if the regime partisans are or become a minority it is never such small minority that in cannot unleash this kind of violence on the opposition . Fear of this kind of violence acts as a deterrent specially on the middle classes who are less familiar with violence and which’s whole ethos is one of disciplined controlled behaviour . People protest verbally but are seldom drawn to phisical violence except sporadically for certain segments of the opposition . The regime tries at least to keep its partisans happy with all kind of goodies and special treats and wantom promises which they depend on to make a living given their basic economic imcompetence . The above make the kind of violence seen in turkey less likely . However if things turn worse or keep getting worse no one can discard and open popular explosion , not organized by the opposition but of a totally spontaneous nature.

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  5. I like the Mires’ version:

    “la gente no es tonta. La gente protesta no sólo cuando debe sino cuando puede. Porque casi nadie sale a la calle cuando existe la posibilidad de ser atravesado por alguna bala. Por supuesto, la protesta democrática encierra peligros. Pero también requiere de ciertas seguridades. Razón que explica por qué casi siempre las grandes protestas sociales nunca tienen lugar en contra de fuertes dictaduras sino cuando esas dictaduras ya se han vuelto débiles. O en democracia.”

    http://polisfmires.blogspot.com/2013/06/fernando-mires-estambul-y-rio-o-el.html

    http://polisfmires.blogspot.com/2013/06/por-que-estambul-si-rio-tambien-y.html

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  6. The spontaneous mass lower-class protests will come, and are probably/hopefully closer than we think. The Government money/ability to continue massive indebtedness has basically run out. The time will come when the poor, now sustained by miserably-low dollar-equivalent transfer payments in a (non-Mercal/free gasoline/electricity) Bs. 30/$ import dollar-denominated economy, will become tired of waiting 2 hours+ in a line to buy a below-cost pollo, which will not solve their many other dollar-equivalent daily expense problems. Polar, virtually single-handedly locally-producing basic foodstuffs often at a loss, has recently stopped delivery even in Caracas to smaller retail outlets (in deference to Government-ordered SM chains) of such basics as Harina Pan, margarine, aceite, etc., even Malta/beer. Corruption in the ports/airports is so great that the Seniat bite alone increases costs 80%, and that doesn’t include the costs of longshoremen/customs/GN. Many food importers, even with preferential $, have actually abandoned the business, or have left containers of food to rot, because of these illegal extra costs, not to mention Government retail price controls obligating them to sell below cost. And the beat goes on (until things explode)….

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