Los venezolanos también somos Charlie

/ January 7, 2015

CharlieThe only sane way to respond to the horrific events in Paris today … is to make sure the artists’ pictures get the maximum worldwide exposure.

Because this is not just a fight of radical Islam against a French newspaper. This is the latest battle in the fight of backwardness versus modernity, a battle that our own government is eager to participate in.

We are all Charlie, because whenever an authoritarian group of thugs pick a fight against cartoonists, we are all in danger.

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      • Chavistas in five or ten years will be seen in the same light as fascists are seen in Italy or the nazis are seen in Germany: ultimate traitors, scum of the earth. You will see.

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        • What ever value your words have, aren’t you deflecting attention by placing traits you’ve been accused of on your enemy? Isn’t this the basis of chavismo’s imperialism rhetoric, according to you?

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            • Why do you insist on avoiding answers? Is this a defence mechanism where you further your entrenchment into your group of incestuous ideas? I had the impression you pride yourselves on being free to debate, defend your ideals, and wear all sorts of clothes besides burkas.

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      • ’cause you forget the psychopath once said “Those who are not chavistas, are NOT venezuelans.”

        Será que se te olvidó cuando el psicópata dijo una vez “Quien no es chavista, no es venezolano.”

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        • Yes, and if we pay them back by adopting the reverse philosophy, then Chavez will have won in the end, by ensuring we remain a nation divided for generations to come.

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          • You can’t pretend either to have the infamous “dale que aquí no pasó nada”, which is what the worst criminals like diablodiado and the hundreds of serial killers actually want, to get away unpunished.

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      • Chavez himself said on many occasions that the opposition were not real Venezuelans. Was that also fascism? Just wondering if you are consistent.

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          • Are you this Hector_St_Clare?

            https://disqus.com/by/Hector_St_Clare/

            That’s a lot of christofacism.

            You both have the same writing style. Below, in this same discussion, you wrote:

            “I certainly don’t give a sh*t about YOUR freedom or the freedom of those like you, Fandino. ”

            In your disqus page you have the same tendency of religiously censuring cursewords with asterisks.

            Seems strange that a cristrofacist demanding that muslims convert to christianism would also be a real chavista.

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  5. Charlie Hebdo started as “Hara Kiri – stupid and vicious magazine” (my translation), a libertarian/anarchist magazine. Following a publication related to the death of Charles de Gaulle, the French administration shut down the magazine and its owners opened Charlie Hebdo that took a more political approach. “Charlie” refers to de Gaulle. Cabu who was killed today was one of the founders of Hara Kiri and Wolinsky also killed in the attack was one of its caricaturists. Hara Kiri’s trademark was bad taste. Here is a sample of its front pages: http://www.tout-bon.com/le-meilleur-des-couvertures-du-hara-kiri/

    Charlie Hebdo, the heir of Hara Kiri was also a master of bad taste. Looks like bad taste kills these days.

    Finally, a quote from Voltaire: “I disagree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it.”

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  6. Manipulative efforts are exposed by drawing attention to Nagel’s description (“mere cartoonist”) as if promoting violence against government officials depends on a distinction between commentators, whether they be journalists and otherwise, in regards to their effectiveness. Amusingly, Nagel and other radical opposition journalists have celebrated Rayma, Zapata, Weil, apparently as lesser journalists that have lesser cultural and societal impact.

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    • Dude. Start with an idea, and think about how to communicate that idea in a way that others, who are not in your head, can understand. That is how we can bridge our differences as humans.

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  7. Well Juan, for once the pseudo-government we got acted like it should: they strongly repudiated the act.

    http://www.vtv.gob.ve/articulos/2015/01/07/venezuela-se-solidariza-con-francia-ante-ataque-terrorista-7341.html

    No ifs, no buts, just repudiation, condolences and the wish to ask for justice. I am quite surprised to say the least.

    For my part, I have been profoundly shaken. I don’t even think that this an attack on freedom of expression, like in Rayma’s case. This is an attack on our way of life and on freedom, period.Today’s Libération editorial says something that we may not have realized at first: the terrorists did not attack the most radical anti-islamists of French society, they attacked the most liberals…here it is: (I don’t know why but when I read it it was “open”, now is just for subscriptions)

    http://www.liberation.fr/societe/2015/01/07/charlie-vivra_1175877

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    • “This is an attack on our way of life and on freedom, period.”

      How could this possibly be? Are you free to agitate society by making fun of US congress member’s deaths? If your freedom is conditioned, depict it as such, otherwise you’re attacking other’s ideals (chavismo’s) by implying they are not free and/or selectively impede freedom because of pragmatism that your govt. evidently also considers necessary.

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      • DSPUR: I don’t understand what you wrote.

        In my view the attacks are a blackmail to our way of life because they imply that we must all accept their way, or else we are killed. It goes well beyond a tacky caricature.

        May I remind you that 200 girls were abducted from school and forced to convert to Islam, sold as slaves, just last year?

        If we allow this, even if we do not like the caricatures, I will soon have someone telling me that I have to wear the burka, that I cannot work or drive and that I need my husband or my son to get out of the house. That is what I call an attack on my way of life.

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        • “May I remind you that 200 girls were abducted from school and forced to convert to Islam, sold as slaves, just last year”

          Why are you drawn to comment on this particular regrettable event and not one perpetuated by NATO allies in the middle-east? Can you point to a single contemporary instance where the media outlets you frequent have incurred in comparable (and hence, morally congruent) depictions of said countries and their radical groups?

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  8. Terrorists hate freedom and free thinking, for the same reason the commies hate and despise everybody that doesn’t submit.

    With these disgusting actions, these bastards are nailing themselves firmly in the “most hated group ever” in all the world.

    Their motto, as well as the one that nazis, fachos and commie-chaburros is the same: “DEATH TO FREEDOM AND TO INTELLECT” / “MUERTE A LA LIBERTAD Y A LA INTELIGENCIA”

    That’s how they want to play it? The terrorists are going to regret it, a lot, I’m sure of that, the french are known for their accurate retributions against those who have attacked them.

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  9. If god is almighty, why does he need protection from thugs?

    If Mohammed is the ultimate truth, why can’t he tolerate doubt? (applicable to the Bible, Jesus, the Torah, etc)

    If the revolution is the will of the people, why does it need to censor?

    If Chavez is so loved, why ban people caricaturing him?

    Why can’t we mock Chávez, when he totally made fun of the country?

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  10. Anybody that pretends that something is above everything and cant be joked about is the enemy of freedom.

    You may not agree with somebody, you may think their jokes crass or insulting or morally wrong. Thats your right, and your right to say it, as they to keep doing it if they want.

    The moment some idea, religion, God, person, doctrine, whatever is so sacred as to require not to allow anybody to find it ridiculous and mock it in public if they want is the moment we accept slavery of mind instead of freedom of conscience.

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  12. #YoSoyCharlie

    I also agree with Charly’s quote -> Voltaire: “I disagree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it.”

    “Laws alone can not secure freedom of expression; in order that every man present his views without penalty there must be spirit of tolerance in the entire population.” Albert Einstein

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  15. The chavista repression of dissident cartoonists is not the same as the Charlie Hebdo attack.

    The former is an act by a government holding power to keep power. It is a reprehensible act, but in its terms it is “rational”, and springs from a formally organized and defiined group. That group’s reach is limited, and it could be defeated in definite and recognizable terms.

    The latter is an act by self-appointed vigilantes who had nothing material at stake, and in fact lost lheir lives, as many similar attackers have done, and apparently expect. They issued from a world-wide population of similar-minded people, which has no structure or organization. There does not appear to be any straightforward way to deter or prevent such acts.

    Furthermore, the attackers are acting on the basis of religion, and our present civilization treats religion as untouchable (compared to a political entity). Note that in the last century, many political questions have been resolved by force, and many political entities have been destroyed by war or revolution. But who has dared make war against a religion or religious body in living memory (other than Communists, some of the time)?

    IMO, the latter is far more insidious and dangerous.

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  16. Sorry JC. You might be Charlie but Nosotros somos Chánez!.

    You bow down before the Sacred Cow of “Free Speech” but we call for common decency and respect for other religions. Charlie Hebdo respected nothing and in a way prepared the ground for its staff to be massacred as bad as that is.

    It is a pity that in the spoiled west that there were no marches for the deaths caused by the Sarkozy led french bomoning on Libya, Mali and Ivory Coast as well as the horrors committed by French forces in Algeris in the 19650´s ( read your hisrory).

    You cannot do this to other countries and not expect blowback and it came in the form on ther Kuachi brothers

    Read your history. All this goes back to the First Crusade called by the Pope in 1096 and this will not end because fewer tan 7% of the French population marhced in the streets to day.

    If your “medernity” means insulting other religions and turning a blind eye to bombing “backward countries” to teach them a lesson then you are the one who needs to re-evealuate his ideas and take a good look in the mirror.

    Get it through your thick skull – BLOWBACK is inevitable if countries act loke this.

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